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Vous avez le droit de dire que vous aimez bien des Nolan, promis Chocolat viendra pas vous hanter dans votre sommeil.

l’auteur a Ă©crit une critique du film, qui vise parfaitement juste :

Spoiler

CP on Christopher Nolan’s film of The Prestige:
I like and admire the following –
The seriousness of approach, the lack of levity, the quality of the direction.
The indirect, multi-level narrative.
The fact that there were no car chases, no songs, no sex scenes, no guns used to resolve issues (with one small exception). There was also no gratuitous violence, and CGI was kept to a minimum.
The photography was beautiful, and at times artful.
The sense of period was good.
The performance of Ching Ling Foo’s signature illusion was mounted well, and Hugh Jackman’s attempt at reproducing it moments later was convincing.
Christian Bale acted with conviction; Scarlett Johannson was not given enough to do, but looked lovely and made the best of a difficult part; Andy Serkis and Rebecca Hall also did well with under-written parts; Hugh Jackman was OK; Michael Caine acted well.
I also like the fact that every time I have seen the film in a cinema the audience has sat attentively to follow the complicated narrative, and that as they leave the cinema the people are always talking about what they have just seen. (They are obviously engaged by the film, but also sometimes pleasantly mystified by it.)
I am much less impressed by –
The ending. In the novel the central mystery about Borden is not concealed from the reader. Most readers of the book work things out for themselves once it becomes apparent that there is a mystery. Christopher Nolan did not grasp this subtlety. In his film he tried to hide the mystery, then weakly presented the revelation of it as a “twist” ending.
The lack of a modern story to set the historical context of the feud between Angier and Borden.
The sound level. Nolan encouraged his actors to whisper many of their exchanges. This was particularly so in the final scene, when Bale and Jackman were explaining the twist ending to each other.
The wooden performance of David Bowie. The role of Nicolai Tesla is one of the most important in the story, and should have presented a decent actor with a meaty part. Bowie was merely adequate in the part.
The reversal of motives in the scene in which Jackman pleaded with Johannson to spy on Bale. In the novel, the suggestion comes from the woman, which in context of the story, not to mention the period, makes much more psychological sense.
The music. One of Christopher Nolan’s strengths is not his taste in music.
The pop song played over the final credits, which was completely out of key with the rest of the film. Another big hint that Nolan has a tin ear for music.
Overall –
I liked what I liked much more than I disliked what I disliked, and found many scenes admirable. The opening is particularly effective, as is the presentation of some of the magic. There is sensitivity and skill throughout, but not flashy, show-off skill, as has been apparent in some of Nolan’s more recent films.
As is described in The Magic I had the unusual opportunity to select the director of the film, and chose Nolan because I sensed he was a young man with a vivid and unusual cinematic imagination. I believe he amply displayed that talent in his early film Memento, and also in The Prestige. I have found his other films disappointing. Insomnia was a routine Hollywood thriller, which could have been directed by anybody; the Batman films, although technically brilliant, were risible, poorly written and likely to date badly; while Inception (again a technical achievement) was cinematically derivative and excruciatingly scripted.
I therefore believe The Prestige is the best of Christopher Nolan’s films to date, and if anyone suggests that I would think that, wouldn’t I?, they should read The Magic to see the exegesis of the whole argument.

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https://x.com/CityOnFireNews/status/2079126049154388188?s=20

:rip:

Interstellar c’est bien, assez inĂ©gal dans sa durĂ©e mais globalement bien, c’est le film qui m’avait rĂ©conciliĂ© avec lui, puis j’ai rien vu jusqu’à Tenet, et Ă  partir de lĂ  plus jamais.

Tenet c’est mĂȘme pas un film, j’ai du mal Ă  dĂ©crire l’expĂ©rience

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je viens d’en donner 3

Y a vraiment qu’un fanboy pour croire qu’ici quelqu’un a peur de Chocolat :mdrcool:

On en a dĂ©jĂ  parlĂ©, mais c’est parce que c’est pas vraiment un film non ? Ca ressemble plus Ă  un exercice de rĂ©alisation pour Ă©tudiant enrobĂ© d’un vague contexte autour « bon, je vais mettre des enjeux dans mon film de poursuites avant/arriĂšre I guess Â»

Je rebondissais juste sur le fait que tout le monde trouve ça unanimement Ă  chier avant de prĂ©ciser « ah non ça et ça c’est bien quand mĂȘme. MAIS BON ÇA RESTE À CHIER »

La fragilité des egos :mdr:

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Je suis d’accord, je te taquinais un peu.

J’imagine parce que les gens supportent pas qu’il soit le « rĂ©alisateur prĂ©fĂ©rĂ© des normies Â» ? Je pense que la plupart des gens aiment bien certains de ses films sans forcĂ©ment penser que c’est le plus grand rĂ©alisateur au monde.

nulan tier list

bien : le prestige, interstellar
ok : insomnia
un peu nul : dunkirk, inception, batman 1, oppenheimer
super nul : batman 2, tenet
nulan giga nulan : batman 3

Interstellar :pepegood:

Y’a eu quoi de mieux en blockbuster depuis ? Ptet Mad Max et ?

Par contre le reste de la filmo de Nolan :fine: mĂȘme le Prestige je trouve ca pachydermique et chiant

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Il a voulu refaire le film a concept comme Inception sauf que là on sent qu’il est incapable d’expliquer le concept :cookie:

Y’a pas de concept ni rien a comprendre mais les scùnes d’action sont rigolo a regarder.

Inception y’a pas de concept ni rien a comprendre et en plus les scùnes d’action sont chiantes a regarder.

Bah dĂ©jĂ  ce n’est pas le cas, mais sinon oui on a le droit d’aimer certains de ses films et d’en dĂ©tester d’autres
 AprĂšs si certains ont changĂ© de discours sur ses films, faut leur demander.

Sinon :

https://x.com/Variety/status/2079250689822277674?s=20

https://x.com/UlisesCamposRdg/status/2079423272999887112#m

:niais:

Tellement pas d’accord avec ça.

Devant TENET j’était tout le temps comme ça : :delarueouch:

MĂȘme les scĂšnes d’actions m’ont fait chier.

Alors que dĂšs le premier visionnage d’Inception j’étais :pepegood:

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Devant tous les films de Nolan je suis d’abord comme ça :really:
Ensuite les persos commencent à parler, et je suis comme ça pour le reste du film

:tommy:

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Interstellar je sais que c’est devenu un meme tellement c’est vanilla mais c’est tellement goatĂ© Ă  mes yeux :pepegood:

C’est maquette contre maquette mais plus de 10 ans plus tard sur grand Ă©cran c’est toujours aussi efficace :leuv:
Comme tous les plans dans l’espace. :pepegood:

Inception c’était pas mal (j’aime bien), mais ayant vu Paprika au cinĂ©ma Ă  sa sortie, c’est une grosse repompe en moins bien et moins fou.
Tout le film j’attendais des changements de situation à la Paprika comme un peu dans cette scùne :

Mais c’est jamais aussi barrĂ© que l’original


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